https://www.digitalfernsehen.de/news/technik/v…uessen-1156903/
Da steht s905x5 .... Also der lang erwartete.... Die Waipu hat doch s905x5m wenn ich nicht irre . Oder 905xm5 ...
It is a S905X5M, like the Waipu or the Mi Box S 3th Gen. https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/co…nt=share_button
Only wondering if it really will have a Gbit Ethernet connection.
Alles anzeigenBoar ist die Homatics eine Mistbox. Ich bastel ja wirklich gerne, aber das Ding hat ja eine Bugliste länger als Muttis Zöpfe.
Meine Box ist gestern angekommen. Angeschlossen und direkt ein Update gefahren. Erst einmal alles eingerichtet; CPU und RAM Auslastung im Idle jeweils bei ca. 50%. Durch Deinstallieren einiger Systemapps, die einfach unnötig waren, konnte ich die RAM Auslastung um ca. 20% senken. Aber die CPU ballert munter weiter im Idle.
Aus Spaß mal in der Telegram Gruppe von Homatics angemeldet und was springt mir direkt als erstes ins Auge:Spoiler anzeigen
short list of atv14.8.4576 issues:
. cpu overload issue (can lead to over-heating, mostly in hot countries when using a tuner)
. 50/60Hz (25/30Hz) issue
. iptv de-interlacing issue
. BT pairing (keyboards, headsets.. ) issue
. usb key as internal storage extension issue
. audio DTS files showing wrongly as DTS-HD
. tuner DVB-S2 issue
. tuner DVB-T/T2 4K channels viewing induce a box restart , re-organizing favorites channels list is damaged
. tuner DVB-C induces a box reboot when trying to scan for channels
That list is not specific for that 4576 build, those issues where already in the previous V14 builds. All reported for many times, ignored till now.
A major issue can be the high CPU load on idle caused by the Play-Fi process. You can disable two Play-Fi related system apps, but that doesn't change anything for that process still being active. It adds 30-45% extra CPU load and higher temps.
Schmeiß mal
DTSPlayFiSoftAP (com.phorus.playfi.tvbackground)
Play-Fi (com.phorus.playfi.tv)per ADB runter, wenn du nicht brauchst. Soll wohl im Hintergrund 20-30% CPU fressen. Habe ich selber nicht getestet, da meine Box noch unterwegs ist.
The system app that loads during bootup still stays active, so disabling those will bring you nothing (only that Play-Fi will not work).
Weiß man, was die Änderungen zu 14.8.4566 sind?
There was no 4566, that was a typo..
Do they allow to uninstall everything Play-Fi at least?
No, that also is not possible. You can disable two system apps, by which Play-Fi will not work anymore, but the major part, loaded during boot up, stays active and causes the high CPU loads.
Yes man , Like I said above, only "heise Luft" ...
End of August, they will change it to September.... And then to Oktober... We all know this kind of game....
Well they pushed and update, and still it is sh!t on CPU loads. This was to be expected I guess 
Gibt's aber noch nicht irgendwo? Stand da August? Der ist ja schon fast vorbei.... Also wie immer Ankündigung von heißer Luft ....
It said Juli till today, that was even longer back in time, and nothing specific about any update, only that "they" were working on that. So this has changed now 
b0mb: Bei den Streamern ist ja AFR noch nicht wirklich angekommen, oder ? Ausser Netflix ist mir keiner bewußt, der das in seiner App macht. Und Netzflix macht auch keine 25fps für deutsche Serien oder so, sondern nur 50fps.
If a streaming device supports QMS/VRR, like the new Mi Box S 3th. Gen, and maybe the new Waipu also (but that one was send back by me), and you have it connected to a TV that also supports QMS/VRR, more streaming apps than Netflix alone, supporting (seamless) framerate. So you must select Seamless in Android TV settings for this.
Beside Netflix, it works with Prime Video, Disney+, (HBO)Max, SkyShowtime, and several others also. Not with the YT app and not with the AppleTV+ app. Still, it is available for more than only Netflix
I disabled it (in settings), but uninstall failed:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 package:com.phorus.playfi.tv
Failure [not installed for 0]
pm uninstall -k --user 0 package:com.phorus.playfi.tvbackground
Failure [not installed for 0]Which "user" should I use instead of "0"?
pm disable-user com.phorus.playfi.tv would be the correct one
We reported the higher CPU loads many months ago, while testing the first V14 builds. It was after they added the Play-Fi part, that CPU loads went up, and by that, also temp. of-course. We calculated that the services needed to get Play-Fi on the device brings about 25% extra load. You can remove and disable Play-Fi system apps, but one part cant be removed or blocked and that still uses about 10% on all 4 cores all the time. Another service, partly related to Play-Fi is using 15% on all 4 cores.
To provide evidence that Play-Fi is the main issue, we tested with a Homatics R 4K V14 build on the R Plus and the issue with high CPU loads are gone, and temp. dramatically went down. We also used the V14 build for the R Plus prior to the one in which Play-Fi was added, and that also showed the same behavior, CPU load way down, and temp with it.
So Sei Robotics (Homatics), must do some build cleaning, but I ask myself if they will drop Play-Fi from the build when they can't get that part sorted out. We think users are not really using Play-Fi at all.
Homatics (Sei Robotics) info shared today. Just FYI
We have temporarily stopped accepting update requests due to the performance impact of the new Android 14 release. This update has caused an increase in device temperature, and we are currently working on optimizing performance and improving thermal management.
We appreciate your patience and will update this post as soon as new software versions become available.
korrekt. Unter anderem mit a/v-synch Problemen in kodi unter Android... 🙈 deswegen hängt die im Schlafzimmer für netflix/waipu... dafür geht's... der thompson(!) - Support sagte auf Nachfrage, eine neue build sei "still in development, has no ETA..."
Just FYI, when you select RAW as output device in Kodi 21.2, sync should be okay, but skipping video could give some replay issues. The 2136 build on the Nokia 8010 (I also got it as OTA), has also got those app restrictions in that 2136 build. Disabling core.nes.coreservice (by ADB) clears that blockage, but you could also use a newer version of that service app to solve it on the Nokia, install the newer one over the old. You can use the one from Homatics/Dune R Plus build 2463 or 3717, I already tried it and worked.
What is offered as solution to use an update from Dune/Homatics on the Nokia, that can only be done by using a flash/burn image (img) file, not a recovery one (zip). But after that, it would not be a Nokia anymore. When you don't have a Nokia flash (image) file, you can't go back to "Nokia".
Wie soll das denn gehen ? Ist doch Quatsch. Dann würde auf der Dune das ja auch gehen ... Solange die Apps das nicht mitbringen, kann Android ja nicht zaubern .
My thought also, at first. But when the Android/Google TV box/dongle/stick has (real)seamless framerate support (QMS/VRR), and the connected TV also supports it, you get framerate switching with Prime, Disney, SkyShowtime, (HBO)Max, and still with Netflix, and several other apps also probably. AppleTV+ and YouTube do not work with QMS/VRR. Tried this with the new Mi box S 3th. Gen., that has the seamless setting available. The connected TV (LG G4 for me), did show a QMS/VRR support message as soon as the Mi booted.
The Waipu box I returned to Amazon. To many issues with that one.
Just FYI
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Mal ganz allgemein: Ich habe den Eindruck, dass die Box vom Hersteller unter ATV12 Beta nicht ausreichend selbst getestet wird, sondern der sich bei der Fehlerfindung auf Testgruppen verlässt, in denen allerdings viele Nerds die Probleme lieber gleich selbst "lösen" wollen, als die auftretenden Probleme vernünftig zu melden. So kann das natürlich nichts werden, zumindest nicht zeitnah.
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You are so wrong with this assumption, but you can't know of-course. If there is anyone to blame there are only two. AmLogic and Sei Robotics. You should see the Google sheet that is filled over the last years with bug reports and other things that were wrong, over and over again. Solving one bug, creating two others. And the major problem lies in the fact that Homatics Audio Product related stuff is put in the builds (HomeClick, MiniBar and even for Sound&Sound), creating lots of extra issues. But they don't want to let that go, there must be one general build for the (Dune) R Plus that can be used as standalone or in combination with those audio products.
But maybe us "nerds" should stop with Alpha testing and bug report in general, let's see how "good" the newer build will get ![[af]](https://www.kodinerds.net/wcf/images/smilies/smiley43.gif "af"){kind=small}
Indeed, she's provided it to me, too.
After one week of testing v12.8.6557 I can sum up that almost all of my issues (video playback stuttering being the worst) have been sorted out, even power management (standby) is working now. I had always kept that enabled (15 minutes, electrical energy is very expensive in Germany
Sometimes USB storage is not recognized after resume from standby or restart, or it just disappears when idling, but that affects the USB 3.0 port only, the USB 2.0 port is working reliably.Finally the box is a worthy upgrade from my Fire TV Stick (2017). Fortunately no need for CE any longer which I had avoided before.
I knew this build would make you happy
Did you already try to enable Developer options and activate USB Host?
cmoon, You could request for it by Ella. I saw some users outside the closed testgroup also using the latest build. So Ella pushes it to others as well.
Nothing to loose by asking 👍
New test firmware on request for Dune users, has the framerate fix; https://dune-hd.com/firmware/atv12.html
Edit: beta program full, 200 beta users reached.
The AmLogic testbuild is shared now for Alpha group, several days ago already. The results are looking very promising, till now, no user on that build got the framerate/subtitle issue. I'm on 8 complete movies now, several of those gave me the issues before. Testing with Kodi 21.0.1, but when solved for Kodi, it will be solved for the other players as well I guess. They did not share what they have done as fix.
As a followup, we got a new build last Friday with the patch implemented (build 6557). This is the one that could go to open beta users maybe. Next week will make that clear. Not sure what Homatics wants with this build for other users.
So this part is done, and so am I now in this group. Hope everyone will get a newer build sooner or later
Das ist ein Lizenz Ding. Du brauchst eine Version von der Nvidia shield. Wobei mir nicht ganz klar ist , ob die Dune die so einfach schluckt wegen 64bit. Die Dune ist nur 32bit. Hab ich jedenfalls in der Telegramm Gruppe gelesen. Dort kann man sie auch bekommen wenn du danach fragst. Sag aber du hast eine Homatics. Als Dune Besitzer wirst dort gesteinigt.
Kannst auch versuchen die von deinem TV zu extrahieren und dann per sideload auf die Dune. Die originale aber vorher deinstallieren.
Get the latest FireTV version, that works just fine and will give Disney Atmos.
Finally.
Last week the SEI/AmLogic Development department confirmed the framerate problem with local media streaming as an existing issue and they could even reproduce it caused by a subtitle being active (of-course they could, but they never really tried it before).
Now lets hope they can fix it completely with a next test build. Fingers crossed there will be a new internal testbuild this coming week(s).
The AmLogic testbuild is shared now for Alpha group, several days ago already. The results are looking very promising, till now, no user on that build got the framerate/subtitle issue. I'm on 8 complete movies now, several of those gave me the issues before. Testing with Kodi 21.0.1, but when solved for Kodi, it will be solved for the other players as well I guess. They did not share what they have done as fix.
